[Problem] Mod ASUS G20CB Bios to support 7th Gen I7

LOL, you posted it right up there… going all the way back to X99 and the 3rd gen. I’m looking through the current BIOS now and trying to find any strings or anything referring to this and seeing if it can be enabled on this specific model. I’m sure it would also help my RX 6650xt too.

Yea if you can get REBAR up and running would be great, would also make the ARC GPU’s (they are dirt cheap) a possibility.

Have you tried to boot the 7700K yet? :slight_smile:

I am looking at it. The ReBAR mod is going to be a bit harder than the modifications for adding 7-series.

I have and with the SPL flasher attached to a R-PI, it will program the new chip, then you can just pop it in. The flash works fine for me, although I haven’t received my 7700 yet. I’m not going to use a K version as I can use the HDMI port on my board if need be, if something happens with the PCIe slot or mucks up HDCP/driver compatibility with modified BIOS versions or if I need to use the machine with onboard graphics for diagnostics or recovery.

Really excited if the flashing end to work out !

Have you tried the overclock linked to earlier?
-could be a great combo if both rebar mod and the overclockable bios could be merged.

I ordered a bios chip yesterday and got a Rpi 4 (but my coding skills are quite limited).

Do you have a direct link to the STL flasher you use ?

Also please provide some pictures your current setup :slight_smile:

Ps. have you checked the Dell 330w mod out, some crazy dude even combined two of those https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/rog-desktops/330-w-psu-for-gtx-970/td-p/564262

EDIT: wrong link… !
https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/rog-desktops/780-watt-asus-g20aj-mod/td-p/615703

O_o

Nah, I haven’t seen a power shunt mod quite like that. I really wouldn’t attempt that because you could blow some board caps and VRM’s sky high. It’s only rated for so much from that plug… I use the HP 230W Delta PSU. BUT… that’s only for the board and the CPU/RAM/Ports. My GPU is connected to an external 700W modular PSU with a PSU-On/Off switch I got from Amazon. I turn the external PSU on then switch the PC on, that way nothing on the board is strained and everything runs cool. Since this is a bespoke board for this PC, it’s unique. I wanted to keep it from exploding. lol. 780w through some of those VRM’s will literally blow them off the board. So I don’t use any board power for my GPU. It’s all going to the low current/pull board parts.

I’ll try to take some rough pics and post them.

The amount of modding done to this little box AJ/CB/CI is pretty remarkable.
-New CPU (6700K) for the CB is getting delivered next week (including a delid tool and a copper IHS + Liquid metal).
-The possibilities if OC via bios / BCLK could be unlocked! :slight_smile:

Just bought a Gigabyte 8GB RTX 4060 (incl. 25% VAT ) for 300 USD!

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I know, double posting is a sin, but for the sake of the internet archives i’ll do it :slightly_smiling_face:

Current setup
6700k+LM+Ventholes

NVME 2tb getting delivered on friday :slight_smile:
EDIT: Works without any problems, booted straght to win11 installation (flashdrive).

2TB P3 M.2

Drive spotted by system straight away

HWinfo

Installed a small Noctua fan to cool the NVME.


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That is amazing! I’m still building a case. lol. It’s got to be right.

Seeing the original casing on yours with the OG GPU cage thing is something. My CPU fan cage wasn’t black though. That’s interesting. I had the OG 1070 model. Could you post a disk speed test? I know it’s supposed to be a x4 3.0 PCIe slot, but I would love to see some speeds to see if that’s a true 32Gb/s slot. It also does USB, so if you wanted to use, for some reason, something else there, PCIe and USB busses are both connected, and I think SATA. You can put a SATA M.2 there as well.

Here you go :slight_smile:

EDIT: Added CrystalDiskMark
CrystalDiskMark

Just read that BIOS with unlocked OC cant run without disabling Hyperthreading so its kinda useless…

BUT this gives another opportunity:
[GUIDE] Coffee Lake CPUs on Skylake and Kaby Lake motherboards

https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/rog-desktops/g20-with-intel-8th-amp-9th-gen-coffee-lake-processors/td-p/847406

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Sorry. I decided to jump in to this thread. I’m thinking putting CFL Mobile for G20CB. Anyone did it successfully for this particular mod?

I’m actually looking for the BIOS that is already unlocked for overclocking so i can do my testing and sharing in return for the BIOS for anyone to play with.

Thanks

Hello @reactive hope you can help. i have successfully made one but need to make sure if this is okay

Hi @MattGuyver,

It is a long time ago I made something for g20cb and g20ci.

My g20ci is still running on 9900k…

What do you need. I will try to remember.

What you need is a programmer. Read out your bios off the Mainboard 3 times or so and compare the image with the others to be shure you have a valid image.

Then modify it and flash it back. If everything works, you are done.

It is definitely an advantage to have another flash ic, so you can simply swap it back. Some Mainboards use identical ic which definitely fit

Hope I can help you

Hi @reactive, can you perhaps help me with some information? I am also using an i9-9900K on a G20CI but a strange stability issue occurs (I described it in this post). Which SODIMM modules are you using and is your CPU an SRELS (P0 stepping) or SRG19 (R0 stepping)?

Hi @vega,

My CPU is srg19 but I had this memory issues too with Kingston HyperX 2x 32GB DDR4 2666 CL16.

A Memory instability issue occurs because of the memory setting DDR4-2666 of the i9.

BIOS is set to auto, so 2666 is set. I thought this is a problem with the Mainboard. The memory traces on the board aren’t able to handle this. Has to do with special electronics requirements. Explaining this would take a while.

Simply set the memory to 2400 via coffeetime. If it doesn’t work 2133.

My G20ci is running on 2133 with win11 without issues.

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Hello @reactive i appreciate the reply.

To start things off. My Goal for G20CB is to have the CPU Installed with a Mutant 1440 to LGA 1151 CPU QTJ0.

I was reading the posts here and the files are missing that the G20CB has been transplanted with G20CI BIOS for added functionality and i wanted to test since i have a programmer and i have spare chips to play with added Coffeelake patching to be done just in case.

Anyhow, i need to find a BIOS that was here on this thread that the G20CB can be overclocked or via BLCK Adjustment for me to increase it’s capabilities for that Specific CPU.

Just in case you are wondering why this CPU? It is quite expensive to get 9900K in my country as the secondhand market dictates and i’m putting an option to use CC150 for this G20CB as last resort if i cannot tame the BIOS for the CPU QTJ0’s maximized capability.

Likewise, do i need to use the REBAR for this also? I will be installing RX7600XT and hopefully it will just just fine.

Hope you can steer me to the right direction and i will be happy to share my thoughts too and files that are permanently shared to this forum.

Thanks

Hello @vega have you tried using SAMSUNG based RAMs? Those RAMs has many wonders even those OEM ones.

Hi @MattGuyver,

U want to use an adapter to fit another cpu… I think a 10th gen intel. Cool project, but that’s to special so I can’t help you.

Keep in mind that you have to be sure, the power requirements are covered by the power distribution of the board. If you are powering the Mainboard and the GPU using the stock PSU you are limited by the PSU itself and VRMs for CPU AND GPU (19V are regulated to 12V onboard for GPU, so there is a current limit)

I had to change some things on the VRM for the CPU to get the maximum performance out of the 9900k that’s possible with my settings.

Thanks for your reply, meanwhile it works. I had only tried values that were too high so far (the lowest one was 2133 MT/s)… With 1866 MT/s my system actually became stable.

I looked up the memory you mentioned and it seems to be Kingston HX426S16IBK2/64. It seems to have timings beyond the usual standard (16-18-18 instead of 18-18-18 @ 2666 MT/s), which are slightly lower compared to the one I have (tCL-tRCD-tRP are 19-19-19 @ 2666 MT/s, 17-17-17 @ 2400 MT/s and 15-15-15 @ 2133 MT/s in my case).

By adjusting some settings in the “Memory Training Algorithms” menu of the BIOS/UEFI, I was able to operate the i9-9900K stable with two SODIMMs and 2400 MT/s in my case. A single SODIMM was already stable at 2666 MT/s (or less) before, without adjusting any settings. At the moment, I do not yet truly understand why this is the case.

Thanks for your reply, I have so far only tried Lexar SODIMM modules (which are based on Longsys DDR4 chips) along with the Coffee Lake CPU. Meanwhile it works (it seems that it was related to the configuration of the memory in the BIOS/UEFI). :relieved:


I will be installing RX7600XT and hopefully it will just just fine.

Regarding the GPU in your G20CB, I think it could be a bit difficult with a Radeon RX 7600 XT. As far as I know, these cards use two axial fans and thus distribute their heat in the whole case. A card with a single radial fan are actually more suitable because they dissipate the heat directly out of the case.

Someone on the ROG forum wrote about some experience with an RX 6700 (from the PowerColor Fighter series) in a G20CI, you can find the post here. It seems to work despite the fan design, but the GPU runs quite hot. The TDP of the RX 7600 XT is slightly higher (190 watts instead of 175 watts), but the heat issue is most likely comparable.

Thanks for the reply @reactive now you got me thinking. Since i cannot maxout the QTJ0 in a H170 platform I’ve already decided to use 8700 but i wanna go crazy with a CC150.

Based on the numbers i get only 10 to 12 percent difference on CC150 vs 8700. Since this will be used a console living room PC doesn’t matter anyway that’s fine.

Lead Jumper is okay with this but i have something in mind a paintable conductor which is stable well kinda. haha as for the covering the CPU with kapton tape thinking to use conformal coating or nail polish.

As for the GPU @vega thanks for the heads up. Since the best RX 7600 i can find is from OEM Lenovo. I will be rethinking the fan that will rise to the vents unless i will be adding a fan inside to manage the airflow.