@AIBow
Thanks for your quick reply.
I suspect, that your SATA SSD is not bootable (needs a boot sector).
Why have you changed your boot medium? The USB connection obviously worked.
According to the start post of this thread it is strictly recommended to use an USB flash drive or an SD-card as bootable device.
Thank you for your reply.
However, when using Windows23H2, why was it possible to boot from the SSD without any problems?
The boot media is SSD from the beginning.
@AIBow
Are you sure, that Win11 v24H2 officially supports your old system at all?
There are meanwhile a lot of restrictions regarding the compatibility.
So I recommend to be happy as long you are able to use the latest Windows OS at all.
I am a new visit to the forum. Ignoring how to start communicating with the author (ABOUT CLOVER). Please help me, if there is no one.
Hello! @Morbius
OS NAME: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate,
Version: 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601.
BIOS Version (Legacy): American Megatrends Inc. 1303, 2008.12.16,
System Model: P5k Pro.
Two discs: SSD (MBR) and HDD (GTP).
I want to install Win 11 on the HDD disk using Clover. On HDD installed Win7. By setting HDD in BIOS in the first place: black screen and white pulsating dash, but Win7 opens. SSD is fine, installed Win 10.
I learned from your forum (author Morbius) that you need to install on old versions Early Clover. I downloaded Clover.zip with you, but I have installed (out of ignorance) Clover Latest (V5120} does not work. It appears ‘6’, after a gray screen with DEVICE Manager, Management, etc. After that, Sandisk in BIOS stopped seeing USB. What to do with the old Clover - delete (I don’t know how), or load Up your old Clover (v4961). And one more problem: I found a warning that on very old versions, instead of the figure ‘63’ should be ‘4096’ I am bothering. If there is a possible, I will thankful.
I was trying to install Windows 11 to HDD drive, I got a mistake: 'Windows cannot without installed to this disk. The Selected Disk Is of the GPT Partition Style. ’
@Edmundas-PC
Welcome to the Win-Raid Forum!
I doubt, that your problem has anything to do with the topic “NVMe-booting”. You may not be able at all to get Win11 installed onto your system, because your ASUS P5K Pro mainboard is too old (latest BIOSis dated January 2009) and not supported anymore by the latest Windows OS.
By the way:
a) Only SSDs (and no HDD) do support the NVMe data transfer protocol.
b) Since your extremely old mainboard has a non-UEFI BIOS, you cannot use the GPT partition scheme.
Hello!
Thanks for the detailed explanation of the situation using Clover for my computer. Lack of experience and trusting one piece of information found on Google did a lot damage to my P5K PRO BIOS: SanDisk doesn’t see USB flash drive and CD/DVD doesn’t work.
If you can, I am asking for your help once again, how to get out of this situation. How uninstall Clover (BDUtility) if possible and how to revert to old BIOS operation. I’m afraid to do something myself, so as not to completely damage the OS.
Sorry to bother you and I would appreciate your help.
Edmundas-PC
Pensioner
@Edmundas-PC
What is your primary target? Do you just want to boot off an NVMe SSD or to get Win11 installed?
Which NVMe SSD (Manufacturer/model) with which NVMe Controller (HardwareIDs) do you have or want to use?
My main target is to install Win11 on HDD (GPT) 950GB, where for some reason the Win7 Pro Ultimate has long been established. The SSD (MBR) is installed Win10 (no more place). In Google, it was using Clover, you can install Win11 on GPT. You used to warn that the installation is not possible with my PC data.
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 1303, 2008.12.16 (Legacy)
Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250 GB Ata Device
HDD - TOSHIBA 950GB DT01ACA100 ATA Device
@Edmundas-PC
According to your previous post your system has 2 SATA connected storage drives (1 SSD and 1 HDD), but no NVMe SSD.
Have you ever tried to install Win10 directly onto one of your disk drives without using the Clover method?
Yes, I installed Win10 directly on the SSD and Win7 on HDD without using the Clover method?
Solution: Format the target disk drive before starting the OS installation.
I format each the target disk drive before starting the OS installation.
I want to add that yesterday I used Clover (BDUtility.exe) from the website:
but without success…
Today I used the experience of your colleague AUTHOR Morbius #833 - also without success.
@Edmundas-PC
There is no need to use the Clover method to get Win11 properly installed.
Look >here<.
Hi everyone!
After successfully installing a Samsung 990 4TB Nvme M.2 SSD disk in Win7, thanks to the drivers listed here and the help of Fernando! I’d like to be able to run my actual Win7 from the new fast ssd so this is what I did:
- I cloned the OS to the new disk using Macrium and in the end of operation it converts disk from MBR to GPT to have the whole 4TB available. (cloned 2 times thinking something was wrong but no, all seems OK with cloning…)
After that I can see the disk listed in Device Manager as Nvme and I also have the correct Samsung Storage controller listed. The disk is now fully usable as storage! - to try boot from it I’ve downloaded Clover-5161-X64.iso and create a bootable USB with Rufus, then placed the NvmExpressDxe.efi in the correct folders as explained in many guides
- restarted the system and modify the BIOS to boot from USB and then after booting I can see the Clover interface but under Windows logo it is written “Boot Windows from Legacy HD1” and many others HD2,3,4,5,6… and of course when trying to boot I just got the blinking underscore and nothing happens.
So… the problem/question is: should I manually create an EFI system partition in the new disk? in the beginning of the (new) cloned WIN7 OS? or it’s a non-sense and the problem is much bigger???
It seems that most of the guides and cases are for installing a new OS in the PCIe Nvme Disk but in my case the system is cloned from an existing Sata III SSD.
If I have to create that partition, something like AOMEI Partition Assistant can be a good option? and I won’t lose the data/OS in the ssd? I saw some guide and it seems safe but…
Thanks a lot if someone have some suggestion on how to proceed!
EDIT: Should I maybe “Convert Windows Installation from Legacy to UEFI” like explained on this post in superuser-com?
Still fighting all the day with this… :///
I think that finally the problem is that Macrium created the clone of WIN7 and well converted the MBR to GPT but the clone is finally wrong because in the conversion from MBR to GPT it does NOT create the 200mb boot record needed for UEFI boot!
I think I finally understood whats going on… but a confirmation from YOU! experts would be great!
Now I did manage to create a FAT32 200mb partition and just need to make it UEFI bootable… to be in the middle between CLOVER and my WIN OS installation, right???
I feel to be so close to the solution… just missing the last step!!!
Thank if someone can put a word on the subject!!!
Not much knowledge about clover, but since Windows connects GPT to EFI boot and you changed your filesystem already it seems you want to boot WIndows (assuming a 64bit version) in UEFI mode.
So you need a FAT32 partition for the EFI bootloader/ bootmanager and then you need to rebuild your BCD.
There’s a lot of guides out there. Very often they recommend the automatic recovery, but this often doesn’t work since the EFI partition doesn’t have a driveletter.
Thank you lfb6!
Yep I’m on that point that “just” need to “rebuild the BCD”… on that partition of the GPT cloned OS disk! but unfortunately got to this point and have problems getting the job done to the end!
That “rebuild BCD” seems easy but I 'm finding it really problematic ://
Would need… some straight instructions… do this then this… etc
I’m really so close, I know!!!..
UPDATE: still not solved but I did manage to copy the WIN7 OS from the MBR disk to the NEW one in GPT and now I can see the 200mb FAT32 EFI partition! but still can’t boot from Clover
even if now I have the (probably) correct button that says “Boot Mircosoft EFI Boot from EFI” and another “Boot Windows from CLOVERCD”…
I will maybe try to put the disk UUID in the config file of Clover, as someone suggested elsewhere…
Finally manage to boot!!!
It was a problem related to Macrium NOT actually creating the EFI Partition + the old SSD still attached to the system but I did managed to make a perfect CLONE of WIN7 (but with GPT/UEFI) with Minitool Partition Wizard and the EFI partition is created correctly and after physically removing the OLD SSD from the SATA III port, and booting with CLOVER, wow, it simply started!!! Actually not finding it so much faster in normal operations but probably in long term use I will see the benefits and in any case was needing much more space so it is fine!!!
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