Ok, i will try another time with different chipset drivers. Look for me like it’s a driver issue, maybe GART driver for agp bus? (but card is detected just fine…)
In other post you gave the link to x32 version of driver, could you post for x64?
And what about agp apperature size in bios? on 32M system BSOD on boot with nv_agp.sys afair, why?
EDIT by Fernando: Unneeded quoted text deleted (to save space)
Ok, I attach the 64bit NVIDIA nForce GART driver v4.3.4, which had originally been designed for Windows XP x64, but may run with newer 64bit Windows Operating Systems as well.
You probably have to force the installation by using the "Have Disk" button.
Good luck!
64bit NVIDIA nForce GART driver v434.rar (85.3 KB)
Hello Fernando,
Just read these pages and your work is very impressive. Let me update you on a problem I’m having (and other users too).
I have an Evga 780i (132-CK-NF78). Although it still works ok with a quadcore in win7 x64 I had a problem when updated to an intel ssd (ssd brand does not matter) as Nvidia stopped supporting the chipset before the ssds became mainstream.
The problem:
If I use the latest nforce chipset drivers 15.58 (or the ones installed by windows at installation) ssd trim functionality via the intel ssd toolbox doesn’t work. I can update the driver with the microsoft one (as detailed here) and the ssd trim/intel ssd toolbox WILL work.
The problem is that in BOTH CASES any ssd will get recognized as sata1 instead of sata2 due to a compatibility bug in the drivers. So SSDs are very slow with this board.
I have seen numerous people complain to the ssd manufacturers’ boards but its not their fault - its nvidia’s - and they have acknowledged this. But they say no update because product is -end of life-.
SSD in my case is used single - no raid.
Have you addressed this issue in your drivers? Which one should I try?
Best regards and most important HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
Silkman
@ silkman:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!
Yes, I know about the SSD performance problem with NVIDIA nForce chipset systems, but I cannot really help, because all nForce drivers are made by NVIDIA.
All I can do is to customize the "best" of them and put them together into special packages for specific nForce chipset series.
Owners of an nForce chipset system, who want a performant SSD wth TRIM support, have to change the mainboard resp. the chipset manufacturer - that is the truth.
Regards
Fernando
hi there I am using NVIDIA nForce® 570 SLI chipset for AMD (m2n-Sli Deluxe)
which Optimized NVIDIA nForce Driverpacks would you suggest that will work for me?
tyvm
@ bh3lli0m:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!
For your MCP55 system I recommend to take the "Non-AHCI nForce Performance Pack".
Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)
Dear Fernando,
Today i bought sdd disk Crucial MX100 128GB. I would like to know which of these drivers i supposed to install for my motherboard ABIT KN9(chipset nF4 Ultra)?
Iam using Windows 10 Pro Technical Preview.
Please let me know. Regards Makalk.
@ makalk:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!
Since you obviously are going to install the OS onto the single (not RAIDed) SSD, I wouldn’t install any nForce Driverpack. I bet, that you will get the best possible performance by using the generic Win10 SATA driver named PCIIDE.sys. Furthermore you will get TRIM support this way.
Once the OS is up, you should look into the Device Manager for missing drivers. Then right click onto the related device and search for the DeviceID ("Properties" > "Details" > "Property" > "HardwareIDs").
Good luck!
Dieter (alias Fernando)
Thanks for replay. I have one question. If i consider install Windows 8.1 in future i shouldn’t install any drivers like on Windows 10??
Yes, Win8.1 and Win10 have newer and usually better on-board drivers than the old NVIDIA nForce ones.
Hi Fernando,
Quick background, running a 2004 era system:
Gigabyte GA-7NNXP mobo
AMD Athlon 3200+ processor
ATI Radeon X1950 Pro graphics card
This system has AGP and the nForce2 chipset
Windows 7
I found your thread because I wanted to have 3GB ram but W7 is only allowing 2GB with nForce2
You suggested trying the older XP driver found in the zip folder you provided, “32bit_nForce2_GART_driver_v4.4.0.rar”…
I downloaded that file and attempted to revert to that older driver in the way that you mentioned, using “have disk”.
Of the 6 files in that zip folder, only the nv_agp.inf was identified with the have disk option. Are the other files important? I went forward with the install, but I got a black screen, and rebooting gave me a BSOD.
I was able to revert to the previous reliable boot up condition, which presumably swapped back in the original *.inf.
I was wondering whether the other files should also be installed to complete the driver set. I’d like to give this v4.4 driver a shot so that I can use 3GB of ram, but I’m not certain how to fully install it.
Can you give more detail?
Also, what is the “nvugart.exe” file? Googling that file name just reports it as malicious / malware, etc. I thought it might be a driver installer.
Driver zip folder contents:
nv_agp.cat
nv_agp.inf
nv_agp.sys
nvcog.dll
nvgart.nvu
nvugart.exe
Thank you
Hello, I have a Problem with my Fijitsu Siemens Scaleo P A8NE-FM from Asus with nVIDIA CK804 socket 939 x2 4200+
I wanted a new install Win7 32 bit in raid mode, but Windows setup always shows up my 2 drives, not the raid0, that the bios is showing fine.
I tried 32bit nForce IDE drivers v9.98 from your pack "Fernandos nForce4 WHQL Driverpack for VistaWin7Win8 32bit v9.0". But at install point it never shows the raid array.
Am I doing something wrong or is it simply not possible with this board.Thank you!
@ quinocampa:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!
I am sorry for my late reply, but I obviously have missed your post while being online.
Yes, all files are required for a proper installation.
The INF file just contains the informations regarding the installation of the real driver named av_agp.sys and the additionally needed files.
This EXE file manages the uninstallation of the driver (if you ever choose this option), The related uninstallation script is layed down within the file named nvgart.nvu.
Here are the functions of the files, which are within the "32bit_nForce2_GART_driver_v4.4.0.rar".:
1. nv_agp.cat > contains the digital signature for the complete driver set
2. nv_agp.inf > contains the installation informations
3. nv_agp.sys = the real driver
4. nvcog.dll > needed for a proper installation of the driver
5. nvgart.nvu > contains a script about the uninstallation procedure
6. nvugart.exe > tool for the maybe later requested uninstallation of the driverpack.
Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)
@ PhanTomLord:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!
This is the way how to get Win7 (x86/x64) properly installed onto a "LEGACY mode" nForce4 RAID array ("LEGACY mode" nForce RAID systems do support S-ATA and P-ATA RAID arrays simultaneously):
- Depending on the Win7 architecture (32/64it) download the 32/64bit Win7Vista nForce SATA_IDE driver v9.98 WHQL from >here (32bit)< or >here (64bit)<, unzip the files and copy them onto a FAT32 formatted Floppy Disk or USB Flash drive.
- Boot off the WIN7 DVD.
- When you are asked where you want to get Win7 installed and you won’t see your RAID array(s) and RAID partitions, plug in the prepared USB stick or floppy disk with the SATA_IDE driver v9.98.
- Hit the "load driver" button.
Attention: Be aware of loading the correct driver package (Win7 x86 needs 32bit drivers, Win7 x64 needs 64bit ones!).
Point to the SATA_IDE driver folder content of your prepared USB stick or floppy disk. You will get a popup window, where the "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller" is shown as compatible device. - Select the compatible device and let Win7 Setup load the prepared driver.
- After having loaded the driver (maybe you have to hit the "Refresh" button), you should see all hard disk devices and RAID partitions of your computer.
- REMOVE YOUR USB STICK /FLOPPY DISK BEFORE PROCEEDING.
- Use the "Advanced options" button and format the partition, where you want Win7 to get installed.
- The rest will Win7 Setup do by its own. Even the restarts should not induce any problem.
- Once Win7 is up, you should do a look into the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" and "Storage Controllers" sections of the Device Manager (choose the "View" > "Show hidden devices" option):
You will see the following devices:
"NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller(s)" using the nForce SATA driver v9.98 and
"NVIDIA nForce RAID Controller(s)" and "NVIDIA RAID Devices" (maybe with the names of the RAIDed hdds) using the in-box nForce RAID driver v10.6.0.xx.
If you should not succeed this way, please let me know it.
Good luck!
Dieter (alias Fernando)
Thank you! Everything worked as you said!
Danke Dieter! Gruß Thomas
only one thing, when I try to shrink my boot partition, its only possible to the half of the raid?
I wanted C: to be ca 50-60 GB, but I am only able to shrink the 298 Gb to 149 GB.
Hello Fernando,
I have to say a BIG THANK you to you for this work you did with these drivers etc.
I have a question now. Maybe you can help. I strongly believe you can 
My “old” computer was standing around in my room with no use for about 2 years now and now Windows 10 Technical Preview came out.
And I thought I could reactivate the old PC to test it.
It’s a DFI Lanparty nf4 Ultra-D Mainboard with a Athlon 62 x2 4200+ Processor. It’s a good combo and Windows 10 runs very good on it, at least for testing.
As disks I have 2 SATA Western Digital Raptors 74GB in a RAID0 setup with the nForce 4 Raid Controller.
My “problem” now is that I have to insert the NF4_LEGACY_SATARAID_VISTA_BOOT.iso - CD which has the 1.17MB Bootable_NoEmulation.img burned onto it
every time I start the PC so that Windows 10 does start up. If I dont insert the CD it starts to boot (you can see Windows 10 icon) but then there is a halt/error and it wants to repair or do recovery. So somehow it can see the MBR/Bootsector of the disk but I guess this is not striped so it goes on and then it stops.
I also had to use this CD to install Win 10 because of the two F6 drivers I found none really worked during install routine. But I like this legacy CD more anyway.
So the question is now. How do I integrate this driver into my boot sequence without having to put in the CD, boot from it → remove CD → press Enter → boots from RAID into Win10.
I already tried installing the RAID drivers from this thread in Windows 10. The installation was successful but it seems to be not enough to make the RAID available during Boot stage. I dont want to have a big effort with slipstreaming anything into an Iso… I already installed W10 and there must be a possibility to make 1.17 MB of code execute before it tries to boot from HD without having to switch CD all the time…
Also I wonder how this worked with W7 or Windows XP without big problems (although I dont remember if i did use F6 install or legacy bootcd at install).
But after successfully installing with manually loading RAID driver then during BOOT stage… it never was a problem… I am curious why???
Do you think somehow it is possible to extract the legacy driver and use it in F6 installation and this is the only possibility?
Also is the F6 method always needed in general to make Windows “remember” the driver for the future boot ups?
Just a little addition:
I for example never understood why I should install RAID drivers in Windows itself after a successful installation of Windows XP or Windows 7. Because
always when I installed these systems on a RAID I needed to provide F6 Floppy/CD/USB media or use some kind of Legacy RAID Boot CD depending on Chipset anyway.
And then after the installation the system would start normally and RAID performance was already there and good!
Maybe it’s just for additional features and safety and for the best experience.
But I really want to know why RAID on the one hand is so simple and easy that even (!!!) the old Norton Ghost 7.0 floppy boot disk that I own is able to backup/restore of/on my RAID0 disk/partition WITHOUT any further driver installations beforehand! But then again Windows and many other programs have problems to detect an array after boot.
Thanks for your help in advance!
F.
@ Fragmence:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!
Some other users reported about the same problem within >this< thread.
The better method seems to be loading just the nForce SATA_IDE driver v9.98 WHQL at the beginning of the OS installation.
This doesn’t work, because it is not a driver but a patch, which simulates a non-LEGACY nForce RAID system.
All troubles users with a LEGACY mode nForce RAID system get while trying to get an actual Windows OS installed is caused by the OS Setup routine, which replaces the absolutely needed nForca SATA driver by the wrong MS IDE driver named PCIIDE.SYS.
Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)
Hi there.
I have: nforce 3 250 socket 939 mainboard
Athlon 64 x2 4600+
Sapphire radeon 3850 512 AGP
and 2x1gb ddr 400 memory.
And everything works under windows 7 x64 except for gpu, after installing catalyst 13.9 agp hotfix, my device menager says code 43 - device disabled next to the gpu.
It seems to be pretty common problem, and as far as I can tell, unresolvable.
What sparked my interest howerver, is this post at sevenforums.com, and I quote:
“For you guys having trouble with nforce3 x ati:
Install SMbus manually from here:
NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 (<- Fernando’s site)
The nforce4 Works just fine.
In devmanager, install with disk the SMBus driver (system devices, NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management)
DONT INSTALL IDE DRIVERS, FROM SETUP OR MANUALLY. System wont read your HDD if you do.
And change " nforce 3 250 agp host to pci” to “nforce 3 AGP host to pci” too.
Do this BEFORE installing the gpu driver, it will be reading your agp port correctly with this changes (full 8x, not 4x)
Change both, or you will be getting BSOD."
And I am not quite sure how achieve second step.
Any ideas?
@ matcr:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!
Zitat von matcr im Beitrag #218
And I am not quite sure how achieve second step.
Any ideas?
Without a link to the related sevenforums.com thread I cannot give you any help.
The most important question is, where the user should change "nforce 3 250 agp host to pci" to "nforce 3 AGP host to pci".
I need more informations.
Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)
Thank you for warm welcome and quick reply.
http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards…400-pro-33.html ← fourth post
nforce 3 250 agp host to pci is under device manager-> system devices
As of 2009 [ year anyone still bothered] possible solutions to nforce3-ati agp gpu-dual core processors and x64 above vista systems were:
Replace the mainboard with a non-Nforce chipset
Replace the ATI AGP graphics card with a Nvidia AGP graphics card
Disable the one of the processor core or install a single core processor
Downgrade to Windows XP or install Linux instead
Disabling one core enables gpu, but then cpu usage skyrockets to non-stop 100%, and it is kinda sluggish in explorer
Installing GART driver v434 for x64 winxp provided few posts back results in automatic system recovery at boot.
Nvidia said it is impossible for that combo to work as nforce3 was never meant for dual core, but nvidia’s agp gpu’s work with amd dual core and nforce3 in win7.
Apart from that, civilization V works on single non-overclocked core on max detail [apart from dx11 ones ofc] in 1080p and at stable 40 fps.
I have no idea how is that possible and i suspect the machine is possessed, please advise.
Update: After few turns fps locked on 60. This thing mends itself.