Fixed some options not showing when they should have for the X370 Gaming, Gaming 5 and Gaming K3.
Updated experimental UEFIs for the Gaming 5 with F10 versions
Gabohack
Mate the motherboard is piss poor, get rid of it and get the board i have, the MSI XPOWER Titanium, its a real nice board, no issues whatsoever, and so much faster., also the UEFI on gigabyte boards is an absolute joke.
the gaming5 will not boot p-state 2 unless the core is 0.85v and 1500mhz, yet none of these problems exist on the MSI, its just a very poor board, also the MSI has BIOS flashback which means even if the bios gets corrupted you can completely wipe the corrupted bios chip from USB even with no cpu or ram installed!
gigabyte are considering taking the gaming5 off the shelves, it has hardware faults.
whats the point of having dual bios if they dont work properly, mine just randomly bricked itself even with gigabytes official bioses installed, a terrible terrible motherboard thats made me lose more hair.
this is the reason gigabyte havent included p-states in their bioses, its because the motherboard has a fault in the circuitry, there are two resistors on the board that are the wrong value which allows the board to get bricked.
this problem applies the the gaming5 k5 and k7, you wouldnt think the msi xpower was the same price! it freaking flies on an r7 1700 all in all same clocks im getting an extra 3.7Gflops with intel burn test AVX and my g.skill tridentZ runs stable at 3600.
if thats happened to you, your board is already fried im afraid.
Thanks, but the problem is i already have it and i cant buy another. And i buyed this mother for the two ethernet and the lot of usb that have. And you have right. This is my last Gigabyte purchase. i can maked work my Ryzen 7 1700 in 3.8 with 1.22500v but i cant make work my ram in 2400 or something. i dont know if is this problem of gigabyte or what but i cant xD My mother is fine, i flashed the stock bios with the backup bios and my mother is safe. But yes. Gigabyte is a bullshit with am4 motherboards.
Thanks for the reply.
And thanks for the work in the bios mod! <3
Thanks, but the problem is i already have it and i cant buy another. And i buyed this mother for the two ethernet and the lot of usb that have. And you have right. This is my last Gigabyte purchase. i can maked work my Ryzen 7 1700 in 3.8 with 1.22500v but i cant make work my ram in 2400 or something. i dont know if is this problem of gigabyte or what but i cant xD My mother is fine, i flashed the stock bios with the backup bios and my mother is safe. But yes. Gigabyte is a bullshit with am4 motherboards.
Thanks for the reply.
They are terrible terrible motherboards, just as bad on Intel sockets, they werenāt like this years ago, gigabytes quality control has hit an all time low, and it comes to something when nasty asrock boards beat them, gigabytes new slogan should be "all show no go"
Ah well lesson learned, the last gigabyte board i bought was in 2001 and its still working 17 years later on an old duron chip. but yea, msi man, theyre hard to beat, rock solid performers and the software is SPOT ON! i skipped on buying any am4 asus board as well as theyre just as bad as gigabyte lately, should have trusted my gut instinct to begin with, i always buy msi graphics cards as well, just look at afterburner, its been the overclockers choice for gpus for years no other software touches it.
nothing works properly on the gaming5, the led system is garbage and so is its software, all the other apps are an absolute joke as well, and the uefi layout pmsl, that just belongs in 1989 it has no place for power users in 2018.
I mean how can they get away with selling a product this bad?
Cant thank ket and tom-rus enough for trying to help out, but this board has actual hardware faults that cannot be fixed, p2k had it licked until the board eventually just killed itself.
Got any links confirming all the hardware issues with the Gigabyte AM4 boards? Iād definitely be interested in having a read. Aside from awful firmware with generic bugs no other manufacturer suffers with (those bugs might now finally be fixed with F10, havenāt used the board in a while just threw it in its box and thats where its stayed) and vcore voltage stability which I would consider very questionable the Gaming 5 I have works ok, but boy, did it take a lot of nagging and inciting the crowd as it were to get Gigabyte to even acknowledge let alone fix ANYTHING. No manufacturer like that deserves to stay in business.
Yea i have somewhere the links saved ill dig them out, but my personal experience with failing parts was under a USB microscope, there are 2 wrong value resistors around the center of the board also a capacitor actually fell off! so its down to bad soldering that part anyway. take note, this board is easily capable of destroying a cpu due to its very poor voltage management, i dont know where to begin here, the onboard sound is the worst ive ever heard on ANY motherboard regardless of price, how they managed such terrible sound from a chip capable of over 120db SNR is beyond me, the uefi is a mess, the bios DIP chips themselves are faulty on 5/10 boards, the rgb functionality only works when it wants to, the vcore fluctuates so much because the boards electronics are all fucked up, its supposed to be an overclockers board and doesnt even have stable p-states, on newegg you ought to see all the complaints about the gaming5 its disgusting really.
In fact i will re word what i said above, its not just capable of destrying cpuās it already has! it took gigabyte a whole 3 weeks to take a bios file down after it did countless amounts of damage to peoples r7 cpuās worldwide, then theres the fact that out of all the am4 AND intel boards, gigabyte are the slowest to release fixes, by a mile as well. they do not care about the end user so why should we care in return? this is the last time i EVER buy anything gigabyte, and as you say this company deserves to go bankrupt.
Remember ABIT? if that company was still around gigabyte would have gone under years ago, ABIT, MSI and Biostar are actually the best boards i have ever used! asus are a PITA lately as well. i dont have time to go into all the gaming 5ās faults but at last count it was about 10, and thats just not on at all. mine from brand new lasted 2 weeks, it had nothing but problems from day one it should be taken off the shelves really.
Any motherboard that randomly bricks its own factory bios is useless, and of course on these boards they are soldered down in the crappiest of places, gigabyte used to be bloody brilliant around 2000/2001 and i only bought the gaming5 because i thought it would be as good as the old boards, lol how wrong was i. anyway just have a look here at the complaints and the amount of people having the same issues, its fucking unbelievable.
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asā¦N82E16813128992
Iāve read some of the reviews on newegg, great how Gigabyte give the same two canned responses to each review they reply to just with a different case number in the case of one of the two responses they give. I wouldnāt be surprised if its some kind of bot making those replies for Gigabyte. You would think Gigabyte would make fixing the firmware on their AM4 boards their only and top priority for a couple months at least. Doing so would surely resolve most complaints and problems people have. I can also confirm with early firmware revisions the board did like to brick itself, happen to me once but the board did still POST I just couldnāt boot to Windows (reboot loop) and the UEFI was blank just displaying an error message which Iāve since forgotten. After that I flipped the DIP switch so only one ROM chip is active at any given time, reflashed the corrupt ROM chip and have never had a problem since in that regard. I will also add I donāt think this issue is any fault of Gigabyte the Biostar board I have also did the same thing with an early firmware revision.
The firmware revision that was killing peoples CPUs on Gigabyte boards was F7 as well. Pretty sure the revision was F7 for all of their boards so not sure why some people say it was F5/6 that killed CPUs, it wasnāt.
I also tend to think the people commenting about RAM issues may not have been aware that with some firmware revisions compatibility changes were very extensive I had to swap DIMM banks a couple times with different firmware revisions where the compatibility changes made simply meant you needed to swap DIMM banks. Its worth noting as well that some of those issues people talk about might of been resolved with the changes I made to the modified firmware I release the settings are pretty messed up in the vanilla firmware so it could quite easily be the firmware confusing itself due to default and optimised default settings being different. Forcing a 1T command rate certainly isnāt a smart thing to do, neither is forcing high impedence. For memory all you should need is somewhere between 60-80ohms. Also, if 1T command rate and high impedence is going to be forced it should be under the optimised default parameters, not the default parameters. I bet thats caused quite a few issues for people with less cooperative memory kits.
In Abits final days they were every bit as bad as Gigabyte. Take that for what you will, Iāll take it as a warning sign to steer as many people as possible away from Gigabyte.
Abit ic7 max 3 and the dfi lanparty pro 875B were the best 2 boards ive ever owned, can you remember QDI LEGEND? their pentium3 boards were rock solid. Jetway were pretty good as well!
Yes indeed, gigabytes last 3 gens of boards from the red and blue team have all been pretty terrible, some might say they only add 2 bios chips because they know they are unstable. thing is both the bios flashes on mine at the time of self destruction were f10 from gigabyte. ket if you use your board daily like i did expect it to just brick itself.
i was blaming windows10 for all the issues i had when in fact it was the motherboard!
Hey ket. Thanks for the BIOS - Iāve been having fun with it since the F7 release. 
I appreciate your work.
Iāve used Gigabyte for years. This K7 is my third X370 board and Iām incredibly disappointed compared to the Asrock Taichi and Crosshair VI I had before (both RMAd, unable to replace the Taichi, the Crosshair was out of stock when I got the K7). Iām not even going to get into the garbage āApp centreā that basically means I have to install two programs to use fan control. Opening up the BIOS settings has been great, but unfortunately this K7 has a fundamental problem Iām seeing repeated everywhere (aside from its generally poor performance compared to the other boards): turning on SVM even at stock speeds results in a 2-3Mhz drop in bus speeds.
I canāt fix this, and I need SVM! Gigabyte gave me a 3-7 working day lead time on support too. Thatās so bad. I used your F7 to check if spread spectrum was the problem, but itās clearly SVM on these Gigabyte boards. And these cost NZ$400. 
And Iām looking at my third RMA.
On the other hand, being able to deal with the more intricate settings and work with Ryzen properly has helped enormously. So thanks!
Iāll be installing the Gaming 5 at some point again in the not too far off future so Iāll be seeing what kind of polished turd the Gigabyte Aorus AM4 boards are relatively soon. I might be able to eek out a few more things here and there when I do. If I had more tools Iād probably completely rebuild the firmware exposing a lot more options but without certain tools beyond what me and tom-rus are doing theres not much more we can do its up to Gigabyte to fix their shit but I think we know what their answer (or excuses) to that would be. Spread Spectrum basically only allows you to make a small difference to the bus speed, disabled the bus will run at basically a full 100MHz give or take minor clock generator differences but with spread spectrum disabled it is the difference in the bus running around 97-98MHz and 99.9MHz which when you are trying to get the maximum out of just the stock frequencies is a reasonable difference. On that K7 of yours you should be able to just increase the bus frequency to 101-102MHz plus disable spread spectrum though to get a 100MHz bus frequency even with SVM enabled.
I used the Gaming 5 for 2 months waiting on AGESA 1072a, gave up waiting about 2 weeks before it came out. In those 2 months while the board didnāt give me any real problems it was far from an optimal experience. Broken memory dividers, borked preset colour settings with the LEDs, broken Gear Down mode, wildly high voltages when left at "Auto" settings, etc. Thats all before I even get to missing options and how god awful the UI design is of the firmware. What makes me feel dirtiest of all is that the hardware on the board is pretty good but its all catastrophically let down by the firmware. I also have to call in to question why Gigabyte shoved 2 ALC1200 codecs on the board and two LAN chips. You just flat out donāt need 2 audio codecs and the killer ethernet alone is more than enough you donāt need the intel LAN as well. The saving that could of been made by going with 1 ALC1200 and just the killer ethernet (hence also a cheaper PCB) could have been put in to ensuring proper circuit isolation for the audio and more beefy VRMs (6+6 design with proper filtering). Despite that though I still maintain the hardware is pretty good the hardware engineers at Gigabyte must pull their hair out and want to punch the firmware coders in their face constantly because they absolutely butcher the potential of the hardware.
Yeah, I tried bumping up the bus speed but it just caused more instability. I donāt think the problem is the drop in speed, itās that it bounces between 99-96Mhz whether or not I have spread spectrum disabled. When I run benchmarks in Aida64 reported CPU speed moves pretty drastically. I ordered a Taichi anyway; I had a good experience with it apart from having to RMA it. 
Iāll deal with the Gigabyte thing separately. At least the Taichi wonāt look as damn ugly as the K7.
Wise choice. There are very few X370 AM4 boards I would recommend. Out of the ones Iāve tested I would recommend the Asrock Fatal1ty Gaming X (or the K4 version), along with the Biostar GT7 but do bare in mind the Biostar board isnāt as feature rich or quite as versatile as some other boards. Out of the boards Iām yet to test I would recommend very highly the Asrock Taichi or the Asus X370-F. If you are looking for something cheap in the X370 class but very well laid out look no further than the MSI X370 Gaming Pro. I really wouldnāt recommend any other X370 boards for varying reasons.
Even asrock beats gigabyte here, as already stated it is a bloody horrible board, HIGHLY recommend the msi xpower titanium, its awsome, having a bios flashback means everything with am4 boards. hell it even works with no cpu or ram installed! also looks beautiful in my white thermaltake tower900 case. did you know also there are more people out there that can hit over 4ghz with the non X ryzen 7 cpus.
Gigabytes boards are full of gimmicks that dont work, msi have put the money where it matters, stability! even has extra power connectors to maintain high overclocks cooler and more stable.
all the rgb bullshit on the gaming5 just doesnt work properly, buying the corsair node pro was the best thing i ever did, i have yet to find out if the gaming5 has damaged my other r7 1700 cpu or tridentZ rgb ram, if it has gigabyte are in deep shit.
Seriously though for anyone reading this, please stay away from this joker board, its fucking nasty. i very rarely swear in forums but this motherboard just makes me!
luckily i still had a 2 week return period left on amazon UK and they refunded me no problem, the msi board though, wow, not even in the same league, the uefi looks very professional and sharp, gigabytes looks like it was done by a 9 year old.
Have MSI sorted the memory compatibility out on that XPower Titanium? Last I heard that board had truly awful memory compatibility, the worst of any X370 board by a considerable margin. I donāt intend to test that board simply because it does nothing for me and I feel it is stupidly over priced for what it is and offers.
I had a good hard look at the Titanium and the Carbon but theyāre both super expensive for what they are. And yeah, I heard about those memory problems and that theyāre also sharing components. At the time I would have had to order from the US and didnāt want to risk it.
The Crosshair wasnāt bad but it wouldnāt recognise XMP profiles, at the least at the time I had it. And then the BIOS update that fixed the Ryzen temperature offset broke its ability to overclock memory via anything but increasing bus speed. But the Taichi is the only board Iāve had thatās been able to get this chip to 4.1Ghz and it ran Hynix at 3200 out of the box. The K7 just checks out early. Unfortunately because of the bclk thing I donāt even think I can put it in a virtual lab machine.
Teething problems with Ryzen, you know, I was expecting it. Like how Googleās Android emulator on Windows still wonāt run on Ryzen even though itās working on Linux, or problems getting my macOS VM to run. Itās just so disheartening when you get the top tier board and itās behaving so poorly you may as well have got a B350. Iām not even sure I can be bothered arguing the toss with Gigabyte over this but if I can get a store credit for something useful thatāll do me. Iām pretty determined this shouldnāt be happening and we shouldnāt be throwing this kind of money at Gigabyte to have to implement hacky workarounds like fiddling with the bus speed.
Iāve had experience with the MSI Carbon Pro X370 and the Gigabyte Gaming 5. Apart from the BIOS on the G5 looking as out of date as a piece of cheese made in 1970, everything else is better - I could lower the voltage on CPU on the G5 with the same clock speed. RAM would max out at CL16 at 2666 at 1.35V on the carbon and on the G5 itās 2933 at CL14 at 1.32V.
Obvs this is just my experience and you could have better luck
Ket its cheaper than the gaming5, my tridentz rgb runs at 3600 no issues
as an electrical engineer, i can tell you its a much better board.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MSI-X370-XPOWEā¦wMAAOSwySlaOjai