Hi,
I have a dell mobile M4700 laptop with the following spec:
Intel Core i7-3840QM CPU @ 2.80GHz Family 6
Intel Core i7 @ 2.80GHz
Ivy Bridge 22nm Technology
Intel HD Graphics 4000 (Dell)
2048MB NVIDIA Quadro K2000M (Dell)
Motherboard
Manufacturer Dell Inc.
Model 035JKV (SOCKET 0)
Version 01
Chipset Vendor Intel
Chipset Model Ivy Bridge
Chipset Revision 09
Southbridge Vendor Intel
Southbridge Model QM77
Southbridge Revision 04
running win7 x64
Im trying to get the optical bay SATA 2 to function as AHCI .
i have a Crosiar SSD X neutron 240GB
i got a Caddy from this site http://www.newmodeus.com/shop/index.php?..index&cPath=2_3
I put the SSD in the Caddy and slide it in.
Bios recognizes the SSD as a “System Bay Device” with its serial number firmware ver and size.
OS works with the caddy SSD as it was a second HDD primary drive.
the problem is when i run a benchmark on the caddy SSD i get 100mb\read\write instead of 550.
ive tried to tweak the board using dell command configure but it didnt work
ive changed registry keys for PCIide and some others but still benchmark shows 100mb\read\write
is there anything im missing?
is it even possible to change the SATA 2 from IDE to AHCI?
@ activenet:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!
This is the CPU model, but not the Chipset model. Your Dell laptop has an Intel QM77 Chipset.
Your optical bay uses the onboard SATA port, which is running in IDE mode and has been designed by Dell just for an optical drive (DVD ROM). Optical drives neither need nor like the AHCI mide.
Since mobile systems like yours have only limited BIOS setting options, I doubt, that you will be able to get the SSD running in SATA3 AHCI mode, unless you replace your internal HDD by the SSD.
AFAIK this is the only option you have.
Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)
Thank you
what do you by replacing the SSD AFAIK?
What I meant was: Open the case of the laptop (if possible), remove the original HDD and insert a fast SSD instead.
not possible. the SATA connector is for DVD thats why i had to buy the Caddy so i could connect the SSD to the CADDY and slide it in like a DVD
And where is the system drive connected, which is within your laptop?
the original HDD drive yes, is connected to the laptop within its original bay.
the second SSD is actually connacted to the DVD SATA port.
i took out the DVD and saw that the SATA port connector on the board is different than the SSD connector so long story short, i googled here and there and found milions of happy users
who had the same issue and they resolved it as simple as plug and play.
so i tried to do the same.
i bought a DVD Caddy(for the use of addapter between the board SATA connector to the SSD connector) i attached the SSD to the Caddy, (btw, the caddy is the same exact shape as the original DVD was)slide it in
bios sees the new SSD as "System bay Device" . it sits on SATA 3 and function on an IDE mode. I have tried many modded drivers from your site tried 3 different DVD caddies 
my system is running win 7 x64 with the latest chipset that i downloaded from this site
i read some tweakers about changing the pciIDE reg entry from 3 to 0 and some others reg entries with no success.
I think Dell made this machine with SATA 2 on port 3 to function only as IDE and there is no way to change it. could be?
@ activenet:
Please boot into the OS of your in-box HDD, open the Device Manager, expand the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" section and check the name and the HardwareIDs of the listed SATA Controller.
You will get the HardwareIDs by doing a right click onto the listed SATA Controller and choosing the options "Properties" > "Deails" > "Property" > "HardwareIDs".
Fernando asked you to swap the drives. Just put the HDD in the caddy and place the SSD where the HDD was before.
There are good reasons to do this:
- AFAIK you can not convert an IDE controller to AHCI by changing some Windows registry values.
AHCI needs BIOS/OROM support and the controller has different device IDs in IDE and AHCI mode.
- Use the HDD in IDE mode. An HDD will reach high speeds only during data burst (the beginning of the transfer).
For large files the AHCI features (like NCQ) are not relevant. NCQ is only needed if you work with a large amount
of files at the same time (i.e. importing pictures, compressing files, etc.).
- Use the SSD as the primary drive for your OS and programs. Everything loads faster.
- Use the HDD as a secondary drive for all your documents, pictures, etc. Or as a backup drive.
Or as a removable drive, swap the HDD with the DVD drive whenever you want.
A reboot is requered before swapping, though.
@ mr_nuub,
I did that it didnt change anything. just to get more clear, i want to use two SSDs --one in the HHD original bay and the second in thh optical bay.i would like to raid them Raid0.
anywho, i havent been using a 7400RPM disk in a long time as primary HDD. it was always an SSD.
@Fernando ,
Hardware Ids:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E03&SUBSYS_053E1028&REV_04
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E03&SUBSYS_053E1028
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E03&CC_010601
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E03&CC_0106
This will not work at all, because your system obviously doesn’t allow to set both Intel SATA ports to "RAID".
That means, that your internal drive natively runs in AHCI mode. It is connected to an "Intel(R) 7 Series Chipset Family Mobile SATA AHCI Controller DEV_1E03".
“That means, that your internal drive natively runs in AHCI mode. It is connected to an “Intel(R) 7 Series Chipset Family Mobile SATA AHCI Controller DEV_1E03”.”( i tought that my second SSD the one in the optical bay is DEV_1E03, am i wrong?
If so, then why i am not getting AHCI performance from my second SSD on SATA port 3?
"This will not work at all, because your system obviously doesn’t allow to set both Intel SATA ports to “RAID”. "
there is an Intel update for MQ77 chipset im sure you heard about this SYSBIOS open source project. reading the data shit i can see that once the update is applied the SATA port 3 which is SATA ver2 would get more Voltage to perform as AHCI mode
furthermore i read that the update can add an option to the bios for the user to choose the SATA on port 3 mode. \IDE-AHCI-Raid
i may writing not so accurate information i just found out about this project today
Project name:
SYSBIOS coreboot
project pack:
CHIEF_RIVER_FSP_KIT
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downloa…orm-for-Windows-
problem is, i have no idea how to implement it. i am familiar with GIT hubs but this project is beyond my knowledge
You should better ask the manufacturer of your laptop and not me.
I did. I spent 3 months with Dell high level support. i got a board replacement. they claim that the SATA on port 3 which is SATA 2 should work as AHCI or IDE mode.
There is a simple test: download CrystalDiskInfo and check if your secondary SSD in the optical bay has NCQ activated.
Then it is in AHCI mode and other hardware (like a low quality connector/cable) is causing the problem.
BTW: If you don’t see a standard IDE controller in your device manager, then it’s running in AHCI mode, too.
hi
yes both drives show S.M.A.R.T-APM,NCQ,TRIM
benchmark on the SSD bay drive gives 100\100 read-write instead of 550\550
Are they displayed with grey or black text?
Grey = bad…
JK, seems that the connector or something else is limiting your speeds…
Black.
stupid question,
is there a way to program SATA port to switch mode? IDE to AHCI
Dude, from what I have read here, the following is the case:
- The SATA controller is running in AHCI mode.
- The drive has NCQ active, so it is running in AHCI mode.
- There is no IDE controller in device manager.
- It is not possible to set specific ports to another operating mode. Only whole controllers.
Therefore, all is well configured. You must have a bad drive, a bad connector, a bad PCB, a bad wire, bad shielding of the connector/PCB/wire or whatever.
You already got a replacement mainboard, so either you have a bad one again (that chance is pretty low) or
the whole production series has a flaw or you have a bad drive.
It is NOT a misconfigured SATA controller.
EDIT: Maybe you have disabled drives chaches? Just check in device manager, enable them and reboot.
so here is how far Ive gone so far:
BIOS set to Raid mode.(i didn’t use the embedded raid controller)
installed win 8.1 Pro
get win drivers up to date
installed RST version 12.8.0.1016 (iaStorAV)
using Intel RST i created Raid0. the process was completed with no errors.<br />banchmark results from ATTO and crystalmark were 550\550 —meaning only one drive was involved in the banch.,
i then, restated the system and the optical bay drive was disconnected from the array. it went back to a single un-partitioned drive
here is the weariest thing i ever saw:
i have never been able to get 550\550 banch from the optical drive no matter which mode it was set to.
after the Raid got broken and the SSD in the bay drive got dumped from the raid. i created a simple NTFS volume, i ran ATTO and cryctal, and now im getting 550\550 from the SSD drive that is connected to the DVD SATA port 2.
@mr_nuub thanks for your reply!
there is an IDE controller on the device manager when i set the bios to AHCI mode.
when the Bios is set to Raid the device manager shows only the controller .
Conclusions?