[Request] Want to get rid of the Intel RST VMD driver

Hi All

Just got a new laptop Acer Nitro 5 2021 with 11300h CPU etc

Running Windows 11 but I discovered Windows 10 does exactly the same thing, it wants the intel NVMe drivers

For some reason this new laptop forces to me to install intel NVMe drivers…
I am running a samsung 970 evo as the boot drive and it is being gimped hard by the intel drivers, seems from googling others having similar issues…
(there is no option in the BIOS to change AHCI or RAID etc)

Would it be possible to make a super intel NVMe “pimped” driver ?
I can also try to see if Acer will do anything ?

Please help I know you guys are the ultimate resource on the interwebz when it comes to all things SSD :slight_smile:

Cheers from a long time lurker :stuck_out_tongue: and greetings from Ireland

Edit by Fernando: Thread title specified

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Thats odd, u cant install/replace the Standard MS NVMe/the so forced…Intel driver, by the official Samsung NVMe driver?

Here in point: O. Samsung NVMe Drivers: Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers

EDIT: It could be due to the Intel drivers u have installed in the system, even so wots hard to believe is that ur not the owner of ur own machine… so wot kind of error do u have when trying to install Samsung drivers?

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/…rivers-software

The Intel driver ur referring usually is installed to the SATA ACHI/RAID controller, not for the NVMe controller, but if u have installed anything related to Intel Optane it could be causing the issue.

Thanks for the reply yea, it will simply only install the Intel driver and no matter what I do will not accept samsungs own driver im so confused

Do I need a BIOS mod ? I can pay no problem as I hate the fact this brand new laptop leaking performance

im not sure what you mean Meat by im not the owner of my machine, I am the owner yes :slight_smile:
The only driver that would install when installing windows was the Intel one, infact I had to "preload" the driver, the microsoft driver would not work at all…
I did not install any other windows Intel nvme software sofar, optane etc

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@Jonny5isalivetm : Welcome to the Win-RAID Forum!
Your problem is NVMe driver and not BIOS related. There is no need to modify the BIOS.
To be able to help you, I need some information about your currently in-use NVMe Controller and its driver:

  1. Run the Device Manager, expand the “Storage Controllers” section, take a screenshot of it (>here< is a guide) and attach it.
  2. Do a right-click onto the listed NVMe Controller (whatever name it has), choose the options “Properties” > “Driver”, take a screenshot and attach it as well.
  3. Open the “Add/remove Software” section of the “Control Panel” and look for a program like “Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology”. Is such Software listed?

Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)

The Legendary Fernando!

No Fernando I didnt install any extra RST softwares just the driver I had to install to boot Windows

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@Jonny5isalivetm : Thanks for the requested screenshots, which verify, that the connected NVMe SSD is currently managed by Intel’s RST Volume Management Device (VMD) Controller (for details look >here<) and not by a normal NVMe Controller. That is the reason why you cannot install any “normal” NVMe driver (manufactured by Microsoft or Samsung).
Although I don’t have any own experience with a system running in VMD mode like yours, I suspect, that the impossibility to get any NVMe driver installed is caused by the current BIOS settings of the on-board Intel SATA Controller. Instead of “RST with Optane” or “RAID” it should be set to “AHCI” according to >this< guide.
The problem is, that after the switch of the SATA mode you will not be able anymore to boot into your currently running OS.
So if you really want to get rid of the RST VMD technology, you may have to do a clean re-installation of the OS. So don’t forget to do a backup of your important data before you switch the SATA mode within the BIOS.
Tip: If I were you, I would take this opportunity to do a fresh install of the currently latest Windows 11 Build and to let the Win11 Setup delete all currently existing partitions of your NVMe SSD before starting the OS installation onto it.
After the fresh installation of the OS (Win10 or Win11) you will be able to manually replace from within the “Storage Controllers” Device Manager section the MS in-box NVMe driver by a better performing NVMe driver like the Samsung v3.3.0.2003 WHQL.

Good luck!

thanks brother for getting back to me, yea there is one more trick potientally up my sleeve, I have another nvme drive in the system and was wondering if somehow possible to inject drivers into the OS ?

the BIOS in this ACER is completely crap :smiley: so I need a bios mod after all! but from what you have said it gives me a slight flicker of hope for the future :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Currently on windows 11 which seems to be a memory hog btw :smiley: eating 2gigs completed trimmed!

Also is this if it makes any sense to you ?

https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1044458/

I don’t think so. You will have just to change the current BIOS setting regarding the SATA/VMD mode.
To be sure about it, send me a link to the latest BIOS for your laptop.

Yes, this is what I have recommended to do.

The BIOS is completely locked down sadly, also I have nice ram that has a XMP profile which I would like to set

https://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles…ACER&SC=EMEA_27

Since I don’t have much experience with Insyde H2O BIOSes, I cannot help you regarding any BIOS modification.
Maybe >this< link can help you.

haha

launch regular BIOS by tapping F2 a few times right after boot.
hold Power button on BIOS screen to force a shutdown.
now while the laptop is off, press (in order) F4, 4, R, F, V, F5, 5, T, G, B, F6, 6, Y, H, N.
now press Power and tap F2 a few times to boot into the BIOS again.
Source: https://ostoday.org/other/how-do-i-enter-insydeh20-bios.html

yea I tried the crazy code, sadly this machine perhaps is too new for it as it had no effect :<

I take it a BIOS mod is out of the question ?

For me - yes. Have you already tried >this< tool?

woah ok this tool looks like it can brick Laptops for fun :smiley: please tell me who to chat with who has experience in this field as I really dont wanna brick my nice new Lappy…

One last thought could you try and increase the speed of the current intel driver ?

Thankyou Fernando for all your messages ABSOLUTE mega star you are!

No, I will not even try to do that, because this would require to change the hex code of the driver itself.

so that tool seems to want a *.FD file any idea how to open a BIOS file or who can mod me a BIOS on this site ?