Samsung Magician sata/AHCI N/A?

[masterD]

Hi!

I upgraded my old P8P67 motherboard/cpu and memory to a Z710 system.
I made a fresh install with Windows 10 build 1607 and installed Intel Rapid Storage Technology v15.0.2.1044.

My motherboard is Asus z170 pro gaming.
And my OS drive is Samsung 850 pro 128GB, installed in SATA6G_1

Anyway when i installed Samsung Magician i get sata/AHCI N/A:

I dont know whats going on?

EDIT by Fernando: Inserted pictures resized (to save space)

[Fernando]

@masterD :
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@masterD

My motherboard is Asus z170 pro gaming.
And my OS drive is Samsung 850 pro 128GB, installed in SATA6G_1

To which mode (AHCI/IDE/RAID) did you set the on-board Intel SATA Controller from within the UEFI BIOS?

Anyway when i installed Samsung Magician i get sata/AHCI N/A:I dont know whats going on?

Provided, that the Intel SATA Controller is running in AHCI mode, you should better ask the Samsung Support than us.
By the way: Samsung’s tool named Magician is crap in my eyes. It doesn’t detect Samsung SSDs, which are members of a RAID array, and gave me very often a sudden BSODs during its installation.

Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)

[masterD]

@Fernando

To which mode (AHCI/IDE/RAID) did you set the on-board Intel SATA Controller from within the UEFI BIOS?
Provided, that the Intel SATA Controller is running in AHCI mode, you should better ask the Samsung Support than us.

Thanks
It’s AHCI

I did run a test with AS SSD, but i don’t know if it’s good or bad

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[antonyfrn]

I’m getting the same issue with my 850 Pro SSD, played about a bit with it no change speeds I’m getting look good I got a feeling this is an issue more with the Samsung software and Win10 anniversary update.

FYI I’m running a M8 Hero mobo also attached the results from my 850 pro maybe of help.

[svefn]

Samsung Magician 4.9.7 does not have digitally signed drivers yet, which is a requirement for clean installs of Win 10 Anniversary update / build 1607.

http://www.tenforums.com/software-apps/5…ned-driver.html

you can try disabling secure boot but that is not recommended. just wait for Samsung to update drivers in the next Magician build.

there are other ways to verify that your SSD is running on AHCI and TRIM is enabled so it is running properly with the right performance.

http://superuser.com/questions/757936/ch…nside-windows-7

pciide.sys = microsoft IDE driver
msahci = Microsoft AHCI driver
iastor.sys = Intel AHCI/RAID driver

so yes, if the benchmarks are looking normal and you have enabled AHCI in the BIOS/OS, set TRIM to enabled. then you can uninstall Magician.

[Fernando]

@svefn :
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

@svefn

Samsung Magician 4.9.7 does not have digitally signed drivers yet, which is a requirement for clean installs of Win 10 Anniversary update / build 1607.

Samsung’s Magician is a tool and not a device. So it neither needs nor uses a driver.

Regards
Dieter (alias Fernando)

[svefn]

Samsung uses a driver which is not digitally signed to interact with the SSD, if you see Event Log it says

"The MagicianSataModeReader service failed to start due to the following error:
Windows cannot verify the digital signature for this file. A recent hardware or software change might have installed a file that is signed incorrectly or damaged, or that might be malicious software from an unknown source."

so yes it needs a digitally signed driver for Windows Anniversary Update clean installs, or else it is blocked unless you disable secure boot.

Samsung’s driver: magdrvia64.sys, magdrvamd64.sys

Starting with new installations of Windows 10, version 1607, the previously defined driver signing rules will be enforced by the Operating System, and Windows 10, version 1607 will not load any new kernel mode drivers which are not signed by the Dev Portal. OS signing enforcement is only for new OS installations; systems upgraded from an earlier OS to Windows 10, version 1607 will not be affected by this change.

We’re making these changes to help make Windows more secure. These changes limit the risk of an end-user system being compromised by malicious driver software.

[Fernando]

@svefn

Samsung uses a driver which is not digitally signed to interact with the SSD, if you see Event Log it says[quote]"The MagicianSataModeReader service failed to start due to the following error:
Windows cannot verify the digital signature for this file. A recent hardware or software change might have installed a file that is signed incorrectly or damaged, or that might be malicious software from an unknown source."

Ok, the Reader Service of the tool obviously needs a driver to get the required informations from the Samsung Disk Drive, which is connected to the mainboard.
Another question: Why do you integrate such a miserably coded tool into a clean Win10 image? For which purposes do you use it? Is it the feature named "Rapid Mode", which measures the speed of your DRAM modules, but not the real performance of your Samsung HDD/SSD?
I have different Samsung SSDs and always got a BSOD, when I tried to install the tool. For me this tool is absolutely crap.

[akbaar]

its fine, its just the windows redstone update made the issue which doesnt effect performance

[Fernando]

@akbaar

its fine, its just the windows redstone update made the issue which doesnt effect performance

The question is: Whose performance?

[svefn]

yeah i guess don’t need to bother with Magician anymore as long as TRIM/AHCI is enabled.

i did go back to my old win 10 build 1607 (upgraded from win 8.1) and AHCI is enabled there.

however some say that AHCI can be detected by Samsung Magician on their clean installs of 1607, so it’s curious why do and some don’t.