@kernelh - So, neither by themselves will boot, in either slot? Speed would not be an issue, it would load generic SPD stock speed/timings until you loaded XMP or set speed higher etc. And I’ve never heard of any company blocking memory by brand, that would be crazy, especially so for Gigabyte who leaves things unlocked on purpose (security wise I mean)
40GB?? Sounds like you added 8GB only then? Are you sure the memory you have is what’s shown on the heatsink/sticker? Can you test those in another system to confirm they are 32GB G.Skills?
No, for me to unlock your BIOS you need to dump with Intel FPT, first see post #23 on page 2, do that, then dump BIOS region with FPT and send to me
Check BIOS main page and see if ME FW version is shown, if not then download HWINFO64 Then on the large window on left side, expand motherboard and find ME area, inside that get the ME Firmware version. Once you have that, go to this thread and in the section “C.2” download the matching ME System Tools Package (ie if ME FW version = 10.x get V10 package, if 9.0-9.1 get V9.1 package, if 9.5 or above get V9.5 package etc) Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools
Once downloaded, inside you will find Flash Programming Tool folder, and inside that a Windows or Win/Win32 folder (NOT x64). Select that Win folder, hold shift and press right click, choose open command window here (Not power shell). At the command prompt type the following command and send me the created file to modify >> FPTw.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin
Right after you do that, try to write back the BIOS Region dump and see if you get any error >> FPTw.exe -bios -f biosreg.bin If you do get error, show me image of the command entered and the error given ^^ This is important step, don’t forget ^^
Or here is simply registry edit that adds “Open command window here as Administrator” to the right click menu Double-click to install, reboot after install may be required http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil…134606820377175 << I suggest this, it’s quick and easy way, reboot before enabled may be required
@mrkkkkc - Thanks. Yes, you will write back mod same way you testing writing back BIOS region this time (FPTw.exe -bios -f filename.bin) Here is unlocked BIOS, write back as mentioned above using biosregm.bin as the filename http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil…754741007241746
*** WARNING - To ANYONE with laptop and unlocked BIOS!!! DO NOT try to enable this graphics card or disable that card, switch cards etc. Otherwise you will end up with no display output (ie black screen) and no way to recover except by blind flash or with flash programmer. You can change graphics related settings, like changing memory sizes, or core speeds etc, just don’t try to disable one card or change which is main etc. Additionally, be very careful when trying to undervolt CPU, you can leave BIOS unbootable due to CPU voltage too low
WARNING *** - This BIOS is user specific! If you are not user mrkkkkc at Win-RAID.com forum, DO NOT USE THIS BIOS!! If you do, and you are not mrkkkkc, then you will loose your serial, UUID, OG NVRAM, and possibly LAN MAC ID as well. You have been warned!!!
I am sorry I may be confusing it below it what I have tested. My system came with 2x8 gb samsung dd4 2666
what I have tried
2x32gb gskill dd4 2666 (black screen no bios) 1st 1x32gb gskill dimm 0 (black screen no bios) 1st 1x32gb gskill dimm 1 (black screen no bios) 2nd 1x32gb gskill dimm 0 (black screen no bios) 2nd 1x32gb gskill dimm 1 (black screen no bios) 1x8gb (dimm0) and 1st 1x32gb gskill (dimm1) boots up shows 40gb 1x8gb (dimm0) and 2nd 1x32gb gskill (dimm1) boots up shows 40gb 1st 1x32gb gskill (dimm0) and 1x8gb samsung (black screen no bios) 2nd 1x32gb gskill (dimm0) and 1x8gb samsung (black screen no bios)
the each 32gb module works just fine in dimm 1 no issues. But it appears that a samsung module needs to be in as well for it to work. I have read where gigabyte may be blocking the module from reading because its not a samsung. Hopefully this helps. I will process the steps to get a bios dump so I can send it to you.
I also forgot to mention cpuid pulls both modules are gskill as well.
@kernelh - Thanks, that explains it all! That would be odd if true, and very unlike Gigabyte to do. If your BIOS has option, and it’s not blocked by chipset, for $26 can you purchase software that would let you reflash the memory SPD and change the brand ID I would send message directly to Gigabyte support and ask if memory is locked to Samsung brand only, and hope you don’t get canned reply where they look at specs and say "Yes, it has samsung memory"
You should @ tag all the users in this thread and ask them if they’re all using stock memory or have installed other memory too I will do this for you now!
Thank you so much for the tags, I have already emailed gb in hopes of getting a response. As soon as I do I will update everyone here. In the mean time I will dump my bios.
@Lost_N_BIOS Hello, thanks for the BIOS, unfortunately it showed the same error message (167, bios is locked) when I tried to flash the modded one in, should I unlock the BIOS agan and use the same modded one or send you another new bin?
attached a screenshot showing the error
also I unlocked the stock bios with stock ram (though not sure if I should count this as a success at the moment)
Edit: got it to work, can finally change the fan setting without control center. Appreciate the help
Dear @kernelh , it will almost certainly work if you unlock your bios options with the help of @Lost_N_BIOS and follow my procedure above. Also, be sure to show that guy some appreciation in return, he is working really hard.
And i also don’t think that there is a memory restriction, it seems to me that your G.Skills and my HyperX just use a bit more aggressive timings and the mainboard might not be able to handle that. If you set the Memory frequency to 2600 (while using the Samsung RAM of course), your performence decrease should also be marginal.
@kernelh - You’re welcome, hope they get back to you soon What is your memory model, and or can you link me to where you purchased so I can read about it’s speedtimings etc and maybe find out what IC’s are being used? Your kit also maybe Samsung IC’s, so “having to be Samsung” may be moot thought here anyway, unless they locked the kit to “Samsung” Brand ID too, all as I mentioned would be VERY unusual for any company to do, let alone Gigabyte.
@mrkkkkc - seems you did not do the unlock I mentioned at post #58 for you to do (on post #23, page 2) - Stock ram and changing this setting to do matter to each other Wait, so you got it unlocked, and finally flashed in mod BIOS?? If yes, great!!
@captaindesaster - Thank you, as always Also, thank you for the memory comments. So, you had issue with HyperX too? Were you able to get them going eventually, or never? Tight timings, in an XMP, should not be applied at startup with new memory, usually it would be the BIOS or SPD’s default JEDEC profile, which should run some slower speed/looser timings until you make other changes (like standard 2400 or 2600 with looser timings vs high performance timings)
@SebasNights - Great, thank you for the reply! So now we know, at least, that it’s not locked to “Samsung” brand ID. Are you sure about the IC being Samsung? Can you check please, download this Taiphoon Burner app, and dump SPD and send me the .bin/tpn file (Save as either). Go to EEProm, and “Read SPD on xxx” pick one, then save as thp or bin and send me the file. - Thanks! Download “Freeware Edition” - http://softnology.biz/files.html Or, if you can’t download from there due to virus/adware apps - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil…159427300764261
Yes, my Kingston HyperX showed exactly the same behavior as @kernelh described above (8GB Samsung and 16GB HyperX sticks together worked well, two HyperX sticks resulted in blackscreen) So, with your help i set Maximum Memory Frequency to 2600, that way the HyperX sticks together work without an issue.
@captaindesaster - Awesome, thank you for further refresher (I forgot)! So now we know, he needs mod BIOS in and then make some changes and he can probably then use both his G.Skills together!
@SebasNights - Thanks! Well, at least for now we know it’s not locked to Brand ID, but those are Samsung IC’s, so maybe locked to that still @captaindesaster - can you do the same as I asked SebasNights in post #69 and send me file, thanks!
@captaindesaster - Thanks! So, now we confirm memory is not locked to Samsung Branded stick, or Samsung IC’s your memory is Hynix IC’s So all he needs to do is what you did, change some settings with one Samsung in there, once he has BIOS unlocked, then shut down and put in other stick instead of Samsung one.
@Lost_N_BIOS Thank you for all your help thus far. It is greatly appreciated. I have followed the steps for the bios dump and have attached the link and errors I got writing. I also attached the Thaiphoon report for the samsung along with the gskill and the link below if the exact ram purchases for 64gb. If you need me to check anything else please let me know.
Attached the report of the samsung hwinfo, error, and bios showing that it worked with an 8gb and 32gb
Please disregard the error, I spaced on unlocking the bios. I completed the steps from #23 and successfully wrote the biosreg.bin. Attached picture and provided a fresh biosreg.bin for you.
@Lost_N_BIOS yup, figured it might have something to do with me rebooting twice by accident and didn’t do the unlock second time. Now I can finally get to those settings, thanks!
I finally got a response from gigabyte and they stated essentially what you said. That the recommended memory is Samsung and they do not have a compatibility list. So I guess my only hope is the modded bios
