[Request] Unlock advanced menu on 2019 Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52

nope modded driver X-G wont install i’ll stick to these stock ones …

New bios manual more compliant with our hynside bioses

http://www.vecow.com/dispUploadBox/PJ-VECOW/Files/2276.pdf

Hello, @Lost_N_BIOS. I’m interested in unlocking the advanced menu in the BIOS of my predator ph317-53. I have read post #107 and followed step 1 of it.
As you suggested on #107, I uploaded vars.txt after running the command H2OUVE.exe -gv vars.txt
Here’s the link.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=37947588755144084796

By the way, my predator has rtx 2070 max-q, bios version is 1.08.
Thanks in advance.



Is there smth useful?

Meanwhile I ranked at 75 position in 3Dmark Timespy world board among 9750H and RTX 2060




Most of the above is MSI it’s just a beast in performance field

Nice Hyppo !

yep the manual contains all the bios settings explained :slight_smile:

Btw now my ram is running @ 3600 mhz holly shit CAS 21 (21-22-42-20) with uncore set to 130mv (+)

10 GB/s gained in read ops ! (41.8 stock -) 52 now) that’s a shame intel dont allow this stock without overclocking and i save some bucks not buying expensive ram …

Still stucked with the faulty nvidia driver @ 80W waiting for a new one lazzy do downgrade it …

will post my benchmarks score in couples of weeks : iam tweaking the 9750H with throttlestop guide i found : tweaking VCore offset - 250 MV !!! and -175 Mv for the cache voltage with +130 MV for System agent aka uncore give me a full stable 4ghz / 4.2 LLC northbridge / ram 3.6 ghz not throttling @ 56W !!! iam so pleased temp are not excceeding 72C after two hours of Aida torture test !

between 3 and 20 fps improvements an all my games ( ARMA3,DCS, Insurgency, Rainboww six, Control) …
Without overcloking the card with 90W ! so i am waiting massive improvement with RTX @ 1900 mhz and Vram @ 2050 mhz …
i wish in several month we could improve the GFX with a 100/110W Vbios mod …

anyway eating all the 1070/1080 Max-q and 2060/70 max Q …

oh i forgot a good one for you hyppo test this !

Then go to Advanced > Power & Performance > CPU - Power Management Control > CPU VR Settings > Core/IA VR Settings

Set IMON Slope to 50
Set IMON Offset to 51999/52999 try both
Set IMON Prefix to “-”, This is important, if you set it wrong you’ll throttle like no tomorrow.

Save and Reboot.

What this does is to have a negative offset of -51.999W on the reported TDP,

So the CPU will be tricked and thinks that the TDP limit has not been reached.

bybybye throttling ! WATCH YOUR TEMPS CUZ NOW CPU IS UNLOCKED AND VRM WILL KICK HARD WITHOUT MASSIVE UNDERVOLTING !!!

Hail to the king babe

Set IMON Slope to 50
Set IMON Offset to 65535 max !
Set IMON Prefix to “-”,

install throlltstop : set P2 80W P1 60 W lock TDP with driver enforcement !
UV vcore -250 Mv !!!
UV cache core - 150 Mv !!!
desactivate in FIVR PPo !
Desactivate C1E and Speedshift !

run cinebench ! no more throttling !
I blow the Walmart pc with 200W power supply !
3059 R20 vs me 3125 !

You cant touch this ! :slight_smile: finally main goal reached ! loop cinebench no throtte 4ghz always vid Between 1.179 V and 1.125V temps max 79C

my new 24/7 daily settings for playing and iddling !







Hey there

Maybe it is just wrong reading those -250v?

I also tried with IMON Offset but not sure about the outcome, it works but somehow weird

As for memory, the uncore voltage really did the trick and I was able even with 3600



One more thing I found, previously I couldn’t passed aida stress test with XMP 3200 profile. But if I add even +0.01 to uncore it passes!

But I don’t know why it is so and how to test because without uncore TM5 passed ok



but aida failed in 20 sec



and adding even +0.01 to uncore makes it pass

And for CB15 you don’t need any special overclock it already works this way



I also heard a lot about C1E and Speedshift but don’t know details, is it worth to disable them?


One more good thing is I tested temperatures with 0 uncore and with +0.02 uncore and it look the same
I really wouldn’t like to add anything to voltage because my cpu is throttle under really heavy load



50W cpu and 90W gpu make

Ok C1E make turbo activated under c1 and c3 circumstances without it your stuck at 4ghz always I think the IMON 50 65353 does that trick and yeah maybe vcore is buggy but all do the magic no throlling for Aida 3600 is stable with more incore try +100 +120 and loosen your timing to make it stable don’t run your pc with faulty ram windows will be corrupt

Try 21 22 42 20 26 52782 674 6 4 9 18 9 3 @1.25/1.30V

Battlefield is gpu and cpu intensive …

Your temps are damn hot thats a fact …

of btw tha way apply good thermal pads and thermal grease on the cpu and gpu i gained 20C full load …

And do you know if there is a special connector on the mother board for the turbo button mine is not working since dissasembly !

Well I’m not sure about stability of my current configuration,

with memory at 3200 with timings from XMP profile, undervolt -150 and uncore +0.02 I had one crash in Battlefield 5 but it was also gpu overclock 220/440 maybe it was too high

But main issue now is temperatures, in game I can’t even handle 56W so thinking about reducing it back to 45W

There is new stress test in latest XTU version, it’s CPU+ AVX2, whats your numbers there after 4 minutes with fans on auto?

With my config above (undervolt -150, uncore +0.02, 56W) I have CPU freq 3.97, temp is 75C average but with spikes to 82C, fans at 3000+3000 rpm



Turbo conn is under heatsink

And just one more note about my cooling, I replaced metal fan with another plastic one, it is more weak than metal but quiet on idle

So it resulted in higher temps of coz but I just can’t bear constant 1680+2200 rpm on idle With both plastics I have very quiet 1680+1680 idle

If only we could hack those shitty fan curve table it would be the best laptop on the planet

Yeah right thank for the picture mate !

Ok for me i saw nobody on the net reaching past 3300 without OV uncore at leat +120 mV that a fact 00.1 keeps me smiling plus look at your picture of battlefield +220 on gpu means real turbo speed of 2135-2150 as you can see yours maxed out 90w pull 1700 MHz so lower at 170/400 gddr6 should try 800 then 1000 on the Vram you will gain better FPS overcooking the vram than the gpu because of TDP and mobile rtx can go Past 1200 MHz try it but lower gpu try 180/650 to be confident

Try this 150/400 you will see same clock under bf1 because you reached TDP rtx is maxed out 90w with 0.795V and your offset applied by nvidia algorithms is only +140/150 MHz with turbo no way + 220 … you need to tweak voltage and gpu curves in afterburner

https://youtu.be/koBxaf-KZgo

https://youtu.be/_tkD2EeqJow



Run gpu z while gaming look monitoring if it says PerfCap reason is VRel and VOp. Which means max voltage is limited by the controller itself. And the controller well is controlled by bios

On more thing your chassis is smaller I think ph317 can dissipate more heat :slight_smile:

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Can you think we should upgrade to 1.10 PMC firware upgrade hyppo ?

https://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles…ACER&SC=EMEA_13

Hi Guys,

I’ve mostly worked on Desktop builds so most of the BIOS I work on usually has all the options unlocked. I’ve gone through this thread and feel like I can gain from unlocking my BIOS. I recently bought a Predator Helios 300 17" [PH317-53] and I’d like to know how I can unlock through software method, if it is possible. I’ve already updated to the latest version of BIOS 1.10, which I hope wouldn’t create a roadblock.

@Lost_N_BIOS I’ve seen your posts and replies to them and feel like you can help me with this. Can you tell me the steps to follow to get things done. I don’t want to go the Hardware route yet, I’d like to try the less intrusive options first. I’ve got enough experience programming, running OCs on multiple devices and tweaking other settings from BIOS, but please consider me a noob for this exercise and can you walk me through all the steps to get BIOS unlocked. Also, it would be great if you can tell me what options are there to unlock, so if I don’t need any of them, I can skip unlocking those parts if it is allowed by the BIOS.

I happen to have a 315-52, and i was wondering if anyone has a fully unlocked dump of a good bios. i want it to actually UNDER volt the cpu and underclock it. I dont use the laptop for playing, just some network stuff and i would like the battery life to be better.
I have a minipro programer. tl826 i think. i can flash the bios directly no problem, but i dont want to waste time making a good dump and i would not know how to modify it to begin with.
Latest version anyone has would be great.

Thank you in advance!

@coolgeevee @Restrected - I “Think” we can do via FPT, I tried to look back and confirm but this thread is too long. * Found it!

coolgeevee - Please link me to your stock BIOS download page

Restrected - if you want to dump and mod yourself with programmer, I posted the edit edit to make for menu unlock here in post #78

To do without programmer, both of you, please download this package and follow along so we can disable FPRR (error 167) and allow FPT BIOS region reflash of mod BIOS
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil…686191681525318

Run the command shown below from the folder that contains the exe, using Admin CMD Prompt. Then upload vars.txt to me
Select that folder which exe is directly inside, hold shift and press right click, choose open command window here (Not power shell).
If you are on Win10 install this registry edit that adds “Open command window here as Administrator” to the right click menu
Double-click to install, reboot after install may be required (Do reboot just to be sure)
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil…134606820377175

H2OUVE.exe -gv vars.txt