Here is the stock .ROM dump from the ANNEX method:
s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=07439798381309059888
Thanks so much!
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Also, IDK if anyone else has noticed or talked about this issue, but I just discovered my 2400mhz RAM is running at a MERE 800mhz! I googled it and found someone reporting a similar issue on an Asus laptop with a 3500u, they mentioned the RAM ran at full speed when plugged in, and indeed my Motile does as well. Need to investigate/troubleshoot this.
@mattj7 - You’re welcome! That sounds like a power saving thing, you can probably adjust/change that in the BIOS (EIST, Speedstep, C1E, C3 etc)
Or via windows power plan, if it’s a windows power thing doing that << you’d have to check in BIOS or in DOS to see if it’s BIOS and not windows
Here is your unlocked BIOS 
Itwould have been here 10 minutes sooner if you would have zipped that file [laugh 
Flash it back via annex method you dumped with
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil…738354268952838
Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to you and your family!! 
May you all have a great New Year as well! 
*** WARNING - To ANYONE with laptop and unlocked BIOS!!!
DO NOT try to enable this graphics card or disable that card, switch cards etc. Otherwise you will end up with no display output (ie black screen) and no way to recover except by blind flash or with flash programmer.
You can change graphics related settings, like changing memory sizes, or core speeds etc, just don’t try to disable one card or change which is main etc.
Additionally, be very careful when trying to undervolt CPU, you can leave BIOS unbootable due to CPU voltage too low (Sometimes even 0.05 is too much)
WARNING *** - This BIOS is user specific! If you are not user TonyChoppa971 at Win-RAID.com forum, DO NOT USE THIS BIOS!!
If you do, and you are not TonyChoppa971, then you will loose your serial, UUID, OG NVRAM, and possibly LAN MAC ID as well.
You have been warned!!!
Thanks so much, this worked like a charm! When I set the RAM to overclock, I can set my 2666mhz RAM to 2666mhz! (I just ordered some 3200mhz Dual Rank RAM).
However, the ram underclocking to 800mhz is crazy! I think you are right, it is some sort of ‘power saving’ feature that I can hopefully tweak and disable in bios. The manufacturer is crazy for doing this!!! You are saving a few watts of power on battery meanwhile 800mhz will cripple the already bottnecked memory on this device! Really hope I can fix this…
@mattj7 - Great to hear it, thanks for the quick test and report back! [cool
I think most laptops do that by default, CPU was probably downclocked too (this is usual as well). Set windows power plan to high performance, and then go into that plans settings and check for anything battery/AC related.
If there is bloatware software installed by Motile, there may be some function in that as well, so check that out too.
It could be C6 in BIOS, or whatever other AMD Power related settings there is (Sorry about above, Intel named things)
Yes, this system has one soldered in stick right? That’s crazy!
That’s something they did “a hundred years ago” in comparison ti today’s tech moving world.
I am and will continue to search for power settings/C6 setting that might change this behavior.
I had no idea it was normal for laptops to clock the RAM down so slow on battery!
There is no bloatware, fresh install of Windows LTSC, I have checked all the power settings, put it on "best performance" and turned every advanced option to "performance" on battery.
There is only one RAM stick, but at least it is not Soldered, it is a SODIMM slot.
C6 is in BIOS, I checked when I was typing out above reply, if you can’t find let me know and I’ll look again and tell you location.
“Best Performance”? Is there not a “High Performance” option? Check this, maybe you can enable other plans. See this, maybe you can add missing ones, could help possibly?
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1103…ndows-10-a.html
Could also be Windows LTSC thing too? Have to wait and see if any other Motile users test and find the same?
Maybe you could look through this thread and tag some of the more active members with Motile, I’m sure someone would test for you.
Is CPU speed downclocked too, or just memory?
Ohh, I thought this has soldered in stick and one you could replace. I guess single Dimm slot is just as bad, especially these days, no reason for that!
Where is it in bios? I don’t think I have seen it.
I have restored the "Best Performance" option by created a new powerplan, with the default high performance profile, this did not change the RAM behavior.
It could be an LTSC issue, I haven not considered that, I will install Windows 10 pro and see if that matters.
It is not the CPU that down-clocks only the memory, and ONLY on battery, when plugged in I can get faster memory speeds.
I can confirm this behavior is not related to Windows LTSC, it happens in Windows 10 Pro fresh install, too.
And I can also confirm that this isn’t just on IDLE, running the Passmark performance test it gets a memory score of 2018 on AC power and 1004 on battery, less than half.
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Can you guys confirm, with AC removed, is your memory speed cut in half? Thanks for your time to check
@mattj7 - C6 is located at the following, if you do not see it, but do see this submenu, show me image of this page (in zip)
new Advanced >> CPU Configuration >> C6
About this memory thing, does it happen on stock BIOS too? If you are not sure, you can reflash your original BIOS dump, same way you flashed in the mod, then test
@Lost_N_BIOS
I’m running Linux and I have a 16GB 3200MHz SODIMM set to 1600MHz (3200) in BIOS. I am running the modified BIOS you graciously provided. I ran this 3 times each with AC plugged and unplugged: sysbench --test=memory --memory-block-size=1M --memory-total-size=10G run
Results (plugged):
10240.00 MiB transferred (21626.26 MiB/sec)
10240.00 MiB transferred (21908.66 MiB/sec)
10240.00 MiB transferred (20120.75 MiB/sec)
Results (unplugged):
10240.00 MiB transferred (13971.20 MiB/sec)
10240.00 MiB transferred (14449.66 MiB/sec)
10240.00 MiB transferred (14052.58 MiB/sec)
It does seem to be running at nearly half speed, but I never really noticed in practice (just coding and some light web browsing).
@furui - Thank you for your testing and quick report back! Seems this is normal for Motile system then
We just need someone to confirm it also happens on stock BIOS to rule out mod BIOS as cause of this. I assume mod BIOS does not, but you know what they say about assuming 
I’d say this is by their design, or a BIOS or EC bug if it’s not something they intended
@furui
Thank you for confirming.
@lost_N_Bios
I am all but certain this behavior is normal under stock bios. I was just hoping that the modded bios would let me change this behavior.
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I do not see "C6" under that submenu. Here is a picture of what I do see: imgur.com/a/PkE1YZl
@mattj7 - Well, you didn’t mention it until after the mod BIOS (I thought?), and no one else has ever mentioned, so that’s why I was unsure about stock BIOS.
I do think it’s normal for some laptops, and you actually are lucky it’s only the memory and not CPU+Memory. However, it still also could be a BIOS bug (this, or all versions), EC FW bug, or ME FW bug too.
It would be nice if you could talk with Motile about this and ask them directly, do they have an actual support presence?
Thanks for the image, here is your mod BIOS w/ rest of that page revealed.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fil…824065758741547
Please confirm you can see the following now, if not, one more edit required.
PSTATE Adjustment
CPB Mode
C6
*** WARNING *** - This BIOS is user specific! If you are not user mattj7 at Win-RAID.com forum, DO NOT USE THIS BIOS!!
If you do, and you are not mattj7 , then you will loose your serial, UUID, OG NVRAM, and possibly LAN MAC ID as well.
You have been warned!!!
Wonderful, thanks! This new modified bios works great, and I can now see and edit those options.
Regarding stock vs modded bios behavior, if I get a chance, I will flash stock bios back and test, pretty sure this is stock behavior.
Regarding CPU throttling vs memory throttling, I doubt I’ve gotten lucky, I bet the CPU is clocking down as well. In CPU-Z, the "Uncore" value under "Memory" shows 665mhz and the memory speed shows 400mhz on battery, I am not sure if "Uncore" is the CPU’s memory controller speed.
I will mess around with C6 and CPB settings to see if I can get around this limitation.
@mattj7 - Thanks for confirmation. I noticed there is a text string in the BIOS for those settings I just revealed, saying they are for AMD 15h family only (Bulldozer I think) and would be hidden unless your CPU = 15h family
But I looked around in google first and see Zen users and others after Bulldozer with users commenting on using C6 (and it’s broken in some BIOS for some Zen etc)
So you can ignore that and use the settings. Not sure if it will help any on this thing we’re discussing, but it should affect downclocks or idle/load values for CPU and or memory. I’m not an AMD user, so not sure what all C6 does or how it works etc.
I’m not sure what Uncore (as shown in CPU-z) is on AMD, you’ll have to google around about that. On Intel this is everything that is NOT core, such as memory controller, Cache, QPI etc
What does Uncore show while on AC? I don’t even see “Uncore” on CPU-z with my current Intel system (Z390 + 9600KF).
You do know that what you see in CPU-z memory tab, such as 400Mhz, that is not the actual speed but actual speed is double that so 800Mhz.
If you are running 1600Mhz, then you should see 800Mhz there in normal situation. I assume you know this, but mention just in case not
Lost_N_BIOS
in an amd plateform how to change logo?
its an working bios of g4-1303au made from oem .exe.
but its logo not hp brand. please put any hp logo in it
if possible.
bios dump.rar (1.37 MB)
Hi @furui , can you confirm what module you are using?
I have a 16GB SODIMM by Viper: PVS416G266C8S, that is rated for 2666mhz. In BIOS, when I set DDR4 speeds to 1333mhz, it runs at 2666mhz just fine.
But I also have a SK Hynix HMA82GS6DJR8N-XN 16GB SODIMM, that is rated for 3200mhz. In Bios, when I set speeds to 1600mhz, it crashes and I have to remove the BIOS battery to reset. In testing, I found this module can only run at 1367mhz (2734mhz), any faster and it crashes.
If you can tell me what SODIMM part exactly you are using, hopefully I can get one and achieve 3200mhz as well…
Hi @furui , can you confirm what module you are using?
I have a 16GB SODIMM by Viper: PVS416G266C8S, that is rated for 2666mhz. In BIOS, when I set DDR4 speeds to 1333mhz, it runs at 2666mhz just fine.
But I also have a SK Hynix HMA82GS6DJR8N-XN 16GB SODIMM, that is rated for 3200mhz. In Bios, when I set speeds to 1600mhz, it crashes and I have to remove the BIOS battery to reset. In testing, I found this module can only run at 1367mhz (2734mhz), any faster and it crashes.
If you can tell me what SODIMM part exactly you are using, hopefully I can get one and achieve 3200mhz as well…
Hi @mattj7 ,
I have a Crucial 16GB DDR4-3200 SODIMM (CT16G4SFRA32A.C8FB) module utilizing Micron chips.
@Lost_N_BIOS I too see a performance drop when on battery versus being on ac power, however the drop is more like 25% instead of 50%, see [https://pastebin.com/mxtiu7XC]. I am currently using the custom firmware, with default RAM Speeds, AFAIK. I’ll check RAM Speeds soon after posting, though. My RAM Stick is a Samsung 32GB, for any who wonder.
EDIT: RAM clock speed is 1200MHz on AC and Battery in HWInfo, how odd.
@wishindo - Thanks for testing! Probably different result for you on performance check due to bechmarking/checking with different program etc
We’re mainly asking about ram speed. Check actual ram speed in CPU-z memory tab (not SPD) with and without AC. You might not be looking at live/current memory speed in HWINFO64?
@earthoo7 - Seems like this is no an HP thread? 
But yeah, I know that’s your thing, post wherever you’re reading at the time, how do you find anything later?
If you want me to change logo in BIOS, you have to give me logo image you want used 